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sorry, im goimg to sound stupid now. what does SMU stand for? and SS?

a lot of the keepers when you think about it whear the NC

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I'm not surprised though, if you've got a great SS, it might not be the tackiest latex ever, but it sure grips the ball better than most "top" latexes (in dry conditions)

 

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SMU - Special Make Up

SS - Super Soft

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thanks lol. the pro's in my mind can wear what they like as they can have new gloves as and when they need them. Even cheap gloves will do the job for a few games.

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Good point on the SMUs. Sometime in the last century I tried to tap a pair of Uhlsport Spezials off John Lukic at Elland Road by impressing him with my knowledge of my newly purchased and revolutionary APG gloves. He said they were a complete gimmick unless you wanted to collect grass seed everytime you went on the floor and any pro GK I saw wearing the new gloves had ordinary palms on. That shut me up and he didn't give me the gloves either. Tight git.

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I'd be curious to see what pros actually wore the APG palm rather than a SMU'd version with SS.

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PocketSchmeichel:

Good point on the SMUs. Sometime in the last century I tried to tap a pair of Uhlsport Spezials off John Lukic at Elland Road by impressing him with my knowledge of my newly purchased and revolutionary APG gloves. He said they were a complete gimmick unless you wanted to collect grass seed everytime you went on the floor and any pro GK I saw wearing the new gloves had ordinary palms on. That shut me up and he didn't give me the gloves either. Tight git.

LOL! Stick out tongue Too funny!

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I would tend to agree with you PocketSchmeichel. The minimum amount of latex is maybe the thing that is putting me off buying neg cut gloves. Somehow they look as if there is not enough latex in "contact" with the ball. 

Justin, I think you have far too many gloves for one guy!Stick out tongue I think you should send some over to me ha ha. Seriously, thanks for the great info mate.Star

I might have done, before PocketSchmeichel showed the value of never getting rid of any gloves!Cool

Not sure if this point came across, but some negative cut gloves, like the Sells Comfort Contour NC, have latex gussets, so there is always latex in contact with the ball.

One other personal preference about negative cut - for me, the entire glove has to fit as snugly as the fingers. I wouldn't want a glove that is snug on the fingers because of the negative cut, but then baggy and loose on the backhand, like Sells Aqua Wraps, for instance.

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danielross:

Is VDS with latex guessets?

No - they have the shiniest most slippery material known to man as gussets. Why would they do that? I think these are last from last season but they illustrate the point.

 

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I have a pair of Uhlsport Chimera NC SMUs that have, for some reason, an extremely slippery material on the outside edge of the pinkie. The outside edge of the index finger is latex (not the gusset, as it's a surround cut), but for some reason they use some kind of slick vinyl outside the pinkie. And because there is finger twisting on the pinkies, it brings the slick stuff into play.Sad Too bad, because it's an otherwise great glove.

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For me David Seaman's save against Sheffield United is the best example why a glove should ideally have grip on every surface.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=whHyHXnLCIw

He makes the slightest and most gentle of contacts but because he got a bit of latex on it he created the friction necessary for the save. I admit it was probably fingertips in this case but it could have been any part of the glove with such a desperate and unlikely save. 

The ponytail helped with his balance of course.

Wasn't he wearing these at the time?

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Simmo,

I have the D30s in negative cut and I absolutely love them. I bought two pairs off of Great Save, and they are currently my match glove. And our home pitch is not exactly pristine these days. I actually prefer these in the wet and muddy weather. The cut doesn't matter with the condition of the pitch; it's the latex that determines grip and durability in different conditions.

Liviu Bird

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PocketSchmeichel:

For me David Seaman's save against Sheffield United is the best example why a glove should ideally have grip on every surface.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=whHyHXnLCIw

He makes the slightest and most gentle of contacts but because he got a bit of latex on it he created the friction necessary for the save. I admit it was probably fingertips in this case but it could have been any part of the glove with such a desperate and unlikely save. 

 

I've always thought he got a fair bit of his fingers on the ball, as he almost seems to 'catch' it for a millisecond and fling it away, since the header itself had no pace. I agree with your point in general tho.

 

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justin07:

I've always thought he got a fair bit of his fingers on the ball, as he almost seems to 'catch' it for a millisecond and fling it away, since the header itself had no pace. I agree with your point in general tho.

 

Can you catch something for only a millisecond? I know what you mean Justin but I think his touch is hard to define which is why it's so special. My point is that the save was made because of the friction between ball and latex. (Sorry for going off on one with your post Simmo but at least I've just watched that save a few more times!)

Does this prove anything? Probably not.

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What I mean by 'catch' is that he doesn't just tip or deflect it, does he? He pretty much tosses it right back where it came from, but he's not slapping it or palming it. It seems there's an element of control in it. I don't mean to be splitting hairs.

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